Category Archives: Compromise

Christian churches welcoming Muslim worship?

OneNewsNow.com-A Protestant renewal organization does not think it is a good idea for church buildings to be used for Muslim worship services.

Fox News recently reported that two Protestant churches are getting criticized for opening their facilities to Muslims groups that are in need of a place to conduct their services. Heartsong Church near Memphis, for example, reportedly allowed members of the Memphis Islamic Center to hold Ramadan prayers in its building last September, and Aldersgate United Methodist Church in Alexandria, Virginia currently allows the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) to hold regular Friday prayers in its facility while their new mosque is under construction.
Alan Wisdom (IRD)Alan Wisdom, vice president for research and programs and director of the Presbyterian Action Committee at The Institute on Religion & Democracy (IRD), does not think God’s house should be used by those who do not accept Jesus.

“Worship is a sacred thing. We dedicate our sanctuaries to the worship of Jesus Christ. It is not appropriate in a space that’s dedicated to the worship of the Lord Jesus Christ to have prayers said based on the false prophecy of Mohammad,” Wisdom contends. “And I would venture to say that I doubt that Muslims would allow us to pray in the name of Jesus Christ in a mosque that was dedicated to Islam.”
While Wisdom believes it is important for Christians to reach out and share the gospel with Muslims, he concludes that church congregations should never allow their buildings to be used for religious practices that oppose Christian teachings.

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Rick Warren and the Muslim Brotherhood

from World Net Daily.com, to me via Watchers Lamp

Has Rick Warren become a shill for Islamic terror?

That’s the charge of a well-documented article by an investigator published in FrontPageMag.com.

Warren is promoted on the "speakers corner" of the Islamic Society of North America, an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood and a financier of the Hamas terror organization.

Fifteen months ago, Warren spoke to ISNA’s annual convention with these opening words: "As-salamu Alaykum. I come to you today deeply humbled and honored by this invitation. I truly mean that. I applaud your courage for inviting an Evangelical pastor. Thank you."

He shared the podium at that event with Siraj Wahhaj, an "unindicted co-conspirator" in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing; Zulfiqar Ali Shah, the former South Asia director of KindHearts, a Hamas fundraising group shut down by the FBI in February 2006; and Naeem Muhammad, a U.S. staff member of Islamic Relief, a "charity" the Israeli government has claimed is a front for Hamas.

When Joe Kaufman asked Warren’s chief of staff, David Chrzan, why Warren’s picture and bio still resides on ISNA’s website 15 months after the speaking engagement, he received this reply: "The website you reference lists Pastor Warren as one of the speakers at the 2009 ISNA Conference held in Washington, D.C., this past July. Pastor Warren’s bio on the site does not represent an endorsement of ISNA or its activities, but rather as one of the speakers who was invited to address the conference."

Surely Saddleback Church and Rick Warren understand why ISNA is still promoting that appearance. It is a conscious effort to "mainstream" the Muslim Brotherhood front byassociation with a man who has been called "America’s pastor."

Yet, Warren does not seem to be concerned.

There is a striking double standard among some Christian celebrities regarding appearances before evil groups, including those promoting hate and violence and terrorism.

I can’t imagine that Rick Warren would accept an invitation to speak to a Ku Klux Klan convention or a meeting of neo-Nazis.

Of course, he could attempt to justify such an appearance the way he rationalized his high-profile speech to ISNA – by saying he was searching for common ground in addressing problems in the world, or perhaps even that he was doing as Jesus did – by preaching to the lost.

But that would be disingenuous, and the condemnation Rick Warren would receive would be universal. That’s why Rick Warren doesn’t speak to organized meetings of neo-Nazis or Ku Klux Klan members.

He does speak to Muslim Brotherhood front groups, however – and makes no apologies for it.

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Compromising the Truth

“First one starts questioning, based on what the world around us is saying, then one looks at Scripture, then theology, then scientific study- until finally what the Scriptures teach is completely subjected to whatever view is currently accepted by the world.”

Francis Schaeffer, from his book The Great Evangelical Disaster

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Following Glenn Beck’s Divine Destiny or God’s Word

 

Brannon Howse, Worldview Times-

Would you approve or disapprove if some of America’s evangelical pastors and religious leaders announced they were going to show up at "Oprah’s Divine Destiny" meeting at the Kennedy Center for an evening that would include uplifting music and nationally-known religious figures from all faiths as they unite in prayer and recite historical speeches? Would it concern you if you knew that on her radio program Oprah has taught the book called A Course in Miracles written by Helen Schucman? This book and the workbook include such quotes as:
"A slain Christ has no meaning."
"The recognition of God is the recognition of yourself."
"Do not make the pathetic error of ‘clinging to the old rugged cross’."
"My salvation comes from me."

True Bible-believing Christians would not approve of evangelical pastors and leaders uniting with Oprah in a self-described, religious and spiritual meeting. Why? Because most Biblically thinking Christians do not agree with Oprah’s liberal politics and they know that the truth of God’s Word and Oprah’s pagan spirituality do not mix.

However, many of these same Christians will have no problem when some of America’s evangelical pastors join radio personality and television host Glenn Beck for a spiritual program, because unlike Oprah, they share Beck’s conservative, political views. To many it makes no matter that Beck is a self-described Mormon because his politically conservative views seem to trump his religious views and for this reason many will justify taking part in "Glenn Becks Divine Destiny" program at the Kennedy Center on August 27th.

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My Response to Noble’s 3 Arguments that Sound Spiritual but Are Actually Stupid

On Christian Post.com recently, Perry Nobles, pastor of NewSpring Church in Anderson, S.C, wrote a column entitled 3 Arguments that Sound Spiritual but Are Actually Stupid. I offer my response below.

#1 – “The Church Is Not A Business But Rather A Hospital For Sinners.”

Uh…OK, the problem with this argument is…a hospital IS a business…and if it is not ran properly then it will have to close its doors, thus losing its effectiveness in helping those it has been called to reach. Like it or not in church world today leadership matters. God made sure we knew that leadership IS a spiritual gift and the reason it has been given was to help the church be more and more effective. I personally believe the church should be the best ran organization on the planet because God has gifted and called leaders to lead AND filled them with HIS Holy Spirit so that they can do so.

MIKE:First of all, the church is not a hospital. A hospital deals with sick people. The lost, the sinner isn’t sick, HE IS DEAD! Secondly, the church is not a business like a tire dealer is a business, and God does not intend for it to be operated like a business. It is the Church of Jesus Christ and He is the head of it, He empowers it and it should be that He directs it. Sure, He appoints men to lead, but that’s only because He chooses to do that, not because the man decided one day he wants to be a pastor and “run” a church. The Church will thrive based on our dependence and obedience to Christ and His commands, not on our ability, skills, talents or resources, and therein lies the problem; mortal men thinking they are more sovereign than the Eternal God.

#2 – “Too Many Churches Are Just Chasing Cool and Relevant.”

Uh…so what’s the opposite, chasing uncool, boring, predictable and meaningless? Sure, churches can go off the deep end and worship creativity rather than the Creator. But to say that a church should not embrace creativity and innovation and leverage them for the use of the Gospel is insane. Church should not be a place where people come and see what life was like on this planet during the 1960’s and 70’s…but rather a place where people encounter Jesus Christ and the preaching of HIS Word in an environment in which they understand. (One does NOT have to be sacrificed for the other!) We are created in God’s image and called to be like Him…which means that we ARE creative beings. Somehow I believe that the church is supposed to be reaching kids WAY better than Disney…they have a mouse…we have the MESSIAH who gave His life and rose from the dead. Our message is SO much greater and should be told in the most effective way possible.

MIKE:I agree with Noble statement regarding the church “a place where people encounter Jesus Christ and the preaching of HIS Word in an environment in which they understand.” However it must be noted that if an erroneous Gospel is being preached or a “half gospel”, it doesn’t matter how creative the production is, it is just a messed-up message wrapped up in a slick presentation. His opening statement “Uh…so what’s the opposite, chasing uncool, boring, predictable and meaningless?” lends me to believe that he truly does overly focus on what’s “cool and relevant”. Again, the Gospel is the Lord’s. It is HIS Gospel, not ours. He is the sovereign Lord of all and did not need our help to His plan for salvation, and does not need our help to see it through in the lives of people. We are blessed and privileged to have ANY part in proclaiming His Word. Does Noble and others of like mind believe that God is God, that He is able….or don’t they?

#3 – “Too Many Pastors Today Are Obsessed With Dressing Cool And Shopping At Buckle.”

This one always cracks me up because, well, I happen to like shopping at Buckle (they actually have jeans that fit me!) I am not so sure about the dressing cool part…but I really do like their clothes. Honestly, I was not aware that surrendering to ministry meant that I also had to surrender to the pleated/cuffed khaki, sweater vest, comb over club! (We could really go back and forth all day on this.) Bottom line…there is a WAR going on for the battle of the souls of men and women…and fighting over clothing styles should not be a fight we dive into! Dress how you like to dress…and if others want to obsess about it you should feel sorry for them and not fight with them.

MIKE:I for one do not fight over the style of dress or even the style of music so much. I do fight over the content and commitment to the Gospel and God’s Word. I live a western/cowboy type lifestyle, but I don’t attend a cowboy church; not because that in and of itself is bad, but because most of the cowboy churches I have attended make hats, boots and hay bales a major theme. We are in a war and its mean, ugly and bloody at times….but here is the thing….we are mere soldiers in this fight with no authority or ability except that which is granted to us by the Supreme Commander, the Lord God. The cause is His, the battle plan is His, the weapons are His, and the resources are His. We either submit and obey His commands or we, individually fail. Noble, Warren and the like do not acknowledge or even imply that apart from the grace and mercy of God, we have not desire or ability to seek or please Him. It’s not about our living to succeed; it’s about our dyeing to live in Him. Don’t hint at it gentlemen, say, show it, live it, preach it!

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Compromise,Sometimes Subtle, Always Significant

from the Grace to You blog

Much like the philosophical and moral chaos that results from naturalism, all sorts of theological mischief ensues when we reject or compromise the literal truth of the biblical account of creation and the fall of Adam.

I realize, of course, that some old-earth creationists do hold to the literal creation of Adam and affirm that Adam was a historical figure. But their decision to accept the creation of Adam as literal involves an arbitrary hermeneutical shift at Genesis 1:26-27 and then again at Genesis 2:7. If everything around these verses is handled allegorically or symbolically, it is unjustifiable to take those verses in a literal and historical sense. Therefore, the old-earth creationists’ method of interpreting the Genesis text actually undermines the historicity of Adam. Having already decided to treat the creation account itself as myth or allegory, they have no grounds to insist (suddenly and arbitrarily, it seems) that the creation of Adam is literal history. Their belief in a historical Adam is simply inconsistent with their own exegesis of the rest of the text.

[That hermeneutical shift is clearly illustrated in this post. Bruce Waltke is willing to dialogue about an evolutionary view of Genesis 1-2; Tremper Longman IIIis comfortable questioning the historicity of Adam and Eve.)

But it is a necessary inconsistency if one is to affirm an old earth and remain evangelical. Because if Adam was not the literal ancestor of the entire human race, then the Bible’s explanation of how sin entered the world is impossible to make sense of. Moreover, if we didn’t fall in Adam, we cannot be redeemed in Christ, because Christ’s position as the Head of the redeemed race exactly parallels Adam’s position as the head of the fallen race: “For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive” (1 Corinthians 15:22). “Therefore, as through one man’s offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man’s righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so also by one Man’s obedience many will be made righteous” (Romans 5:18-19). “And so it is written, ‘The first man Adam became a living being.’ The last Adam became a life-giving spirit” (1 Corinthians 15:45; cf. 1 Timothy 2:13-14; Jude 14).

So in an important sense, everything Scripture says about our salvation through Jesus Christ hinges on the literal truth of what Genesis 1-3 teaches about Adam’s creation and fall. There is no more pivotal passage of Scripture.

What “old-earth creationists” (including, to a large degree, even the evangelical ones) are doing with Genesis 1-3 is precisely what religious liberals have always done with all of Scripture—spiritualizing and reinterpreting the text allegorically to make it mean what they want it to mean. It is a dangerous way to handle Scripture. And it involves a perilous and unnecessary capitulation to the religious presuppositions of naturalism—not to mention a serious dishonor to God.

Evangelicals who accept an old-earth interpretation of Genesis have embraced a hermeneutic that is hostile to a high view of Scripture. They are bringing to the opening chapters of Scripture a method of biblical interpretation that has built-in anti-evangelical presuppositions. Those who adopt this approach have already embarked on a process that invariably overthrows faith. Churches and colleges that embrace this view will not remain evangelical long.

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Compromising Truth and Practice

by Walter Chantry

Just before Jesus was taken up into heaven He told His disciples: “You will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth” (Acts 1:8). Witnessing about who Jesus is and what He taught was to be cross-cultural. As His disciples faced new social and cultural changes, they were expected to hold fast to truth and righteousness so as to be bright lights of witnessing all over the world.

Today, rapid changes are taking place throughout the world in which we are to carry out the great commission. The world continues to be marked by men who are “lovers of themselves,” “lovers of money,” or “lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God” (2 Tim. 3). Yet these tendencies of fallen human nature constantly discover new ways to manifest themselves in each society of the earth. There remains a critical need for Jesus’ witnesses to be counter-cultural where sin abounds.

So rapid are societal changes in America that few are even aware of the radical pressures brought to bear on Christians and their churches. In the last fifty years, even the sense of belonging to a community has largely disappeared. The attractiveness of rural areas draws Christians to want to raise their families where lovely homes can be built near fields and streams, but jobs are to be found in places sometimes hours away from such homes. At the same time, a “satisfactory” church may be found that is an hour or more of commuting in a different direction from the workplace.

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